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Posted by Kathleen Adams
My post above and Thom's evidently passed each other on the way, and I didn't want to ignore his post.
First, sorry about the "parrot" crack. It was a cheap shot, but so was your "hand-waving and the blindfolds" comment. Also, being a smart-ass is one of my little character flaws, and the chance to retaliate AND make a subtle Starship Titanic reference (I love that parrot) was irresistable. Shall we call it a draw?
Second, I don't think I can explain how my life has led me to God, although goodness knows I'd like to be able to. It's not a question of those goofy-sounding miracles people sometimes cite ("Something told me not to take the bus that day, and so I didn't and it crashed and 30 people died!), it's not dramatic, it's not sudden, it's nothing concrete at all, just a gradual, unrelenting awareness of a Presence. And then life moved on from there. I contend that just because it can't be tasted, touched, measured or quantified doesn't mean it isn't real, you contend (I presume) that that's exactly what it does mean, and therein lies our disagreement. Since we've agreed that "parroting" a writer is OK (just a joke, I swear), you might find C.S. Lewis's Surprised By Joy interesting. It's the story of a man (C.S. Lewis) who started life as a luke-warm Christian, converted (so to speak) to atheism, and then in adulthood found himself an extremely reluctant convert to Christianity. I mention it not because I think it will convert you, but because he describes it s-o-o-o-o much better than I could. You could find some excerpts on the Web somewhere so you wouldn't have to read the whole thing.
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- 12.Apr.2000 21:35:56 Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 00:45:59 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Douglas Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 02:18:35 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Ramanujan Srinivasan
- 13.Apr.2000 04:16:17 Re: Not a fundamentalist - AGRAJAG
- 13.Apr.2000 04:56:18 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Ann
- 13.Apr.2000 15:17:11 Re: Not a fundamentalist - God
- 13.Apr.2000 16:17:58 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 16:25:56 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 16:49:04 Re: Not a fundamentalist - thom stuart
- 13.Apr.2000 17:08:02 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 17:26:02 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Ann
- 13.Apr.2000 17:31:19 Re: Not a fundamentalist - thom stuart
- 13.Apr.2000 17:49:34 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 18:11:04 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen Adams
- 13.Apr.2000 18:32:54 Re: Wondering about nationality - American and Atheist
- 13.Apr.2000 19:05:28 Re: Wondering about nationality - Kathleen
- 13.Apr.2000 20:11:43 free speech - Chris
- 13.Apr.2000 20:12:17 free speech - Chris
- 13.Apr.2000 22:48:19 Re: Not a fundamentalist - BJ
- 14.Apr.2000 00:00:58 Re: Not a fundamentalist - melbourne mark
- 14.Apr.2000 00:23:56 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Kathleen
- 14.Apr.2000 02:02:04 Re: Not a fundamentalist - BJ (MauveBib)
- 14.Apr.2000 08:25:19 Re: Not a fundamentalist - irritated
- 14.Apr.2000 10:54:41 Just to be immature. - Samus
- 14.Apr.2000 18:54:11 Atheism on h2g2 - Douglas Adams
- 14.Apr.2000 19:16:32 Re: this entire thread - Stan
- 14.Apr.2000 20:42:51 Re: this entire thread - htjyang
- 15.Apr.2000 05:33:18 Re: this entire thread - logik5b
- 15.Apr.2000 06:10:57 Re: this entire thread - still irritated
- 15.Apr.2000 11:43:26 Agnostapalooza - Rob, SoLF
- 15.Apr.2000 22:29:59 Re: Agnostapalooza - Allison
- 16.Apr.2000 00:01:50 Re: Agnostapalooza - Rob, SoLF
- 16.Apr.2000 02:50:52 Re: Agnostapalooza - Allison
- 16.Apr.2000 02:51:15 Re: Agnostapalooza - Allison
- 16.Apr.2000 04:59:25 Re: Agnostapalooza - Owlish
- 16.Apr.2000 05:07:09 Re: Agnostapalooza - Rob, SoLF
- 16.Apr.2000 06:25:33 Re: Agnostapalooza - Allison
- 16.Apr.2000 15:45:50 Re: Atheism on h2g2 - Optimistic
- 16.Apr.2000 17:11:45 Re: Atheism on h2g2 - FingerSoup
- 16.Apr.2000 19:59:28 Re: Wondering about nationality - R.J.Briel
- 16.Apr.2000 20:43:12 Re: Wondering about nationality - Owlish
- 17.Apr.2000 00:39:08 Re: Wondering about nationality - melbourne mark
- 17.Apr.2000 01:12:19 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Pinkpussycat
- 17.Apr.2000 03:38:17 Re: Not a fundamentalist - Owlish
- 17.Apr.2000 06:07:44 The LAST word, on the THE word... - GOD - almighty
- 17.Apr.2000 12:25:20 Re: The LAST word, on the THE word... - Convert
- 17.Apr.2000 17:19:49 I've created (or tapped into?) a monster! - Kathleen Adams
- 17.Apr.2000 23:11:34 Re: I've created (or tapped into?) a monster! - melbourne mark
- 18.Apr.2000 09:07:29 Re: Dharmageddon - Rob, SoLF
- 18.Apr.2000 11:01:44 Re: Dharmageddon - God
- 18.Apr.2000 16:11:32 a figment of the imagination - Satanic Deathlord of the Netherworld
- 18.Apr.2000 16:16:37 Re: Agnostapalooza - Satanic Deathlord of the Netherworld
- 18.Apr.2000 16:17:19 Re: Agnostapalooza - Satanic Deathlord of the Netherworld
- 18.Apr.2000 16:19:11 sorry - Satanic Deathlord of the Netherworld
- 19.Apr.2000 00:01:06 Re: Dharmageddon - Allison
- 19.Apr.2000 04:58:24 Well, that about wraps it up for Intolerance... - GOD-almighty
- 19.Apr.2000 09:31:11 You are on your own - God
- 21.Apr.2000 02:08:36 Re: You are on your own - melbourne mark
- 22.Apr.2000 01:21:46 Re: this entire thread - MauveBib
- 24.Apr.2000 17:52:57 Hi, I'm back! - God
- 02.May.2000 17:46:48 Re: Hi, I'm back! - R.J.Briel
- 08.May.2000 11:24:31 Re: Hi, I'm back! - Bark
- 14.Jul.2000 01:21:46 Re: Not a fundamentalist - *
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